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      CommentAuthorMaxsilver
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010 edited
     
    Travis:
    Garrett:come on Max, youre better than that


    whered you get this idea? you've read his other posts right?




    YOU MOTHERFUCKER

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      CommentAuthorMaxsilver
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    seriously though, sorry if that offended you occupant, its kind of fucked up. didnt think about it being your kid at the moment. it was just a mention of some kid and a priest and my mind went to the whole catholic priests are chomos thing and it came out. sometimes i lose control of the troll. just know it was a total joke.

    also i decided today that i love jesus and have accepted him into my heart as my personal lord and savior. now we can all get along. fuck you matt and keenan.
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    I was an alter boy for many years in the Catholic church I attended....Father Hanson never once touched me in an inapropriate way.
    Yeah, some people messed up and did some bad things, but let that shit go man.
    I read on the news that some pot head had sex with some goats...........when did you start banging goats Max?
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      CommentAuthoroccupant
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    garrett wins.
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010 edited
     
    Most of my friends are atheist. Some of my very best friends and bandmates are devout Christians. Depending on their personality we either have very meaningful talks about the naure of spirituality or I just avoid the topic of religion altogether because I want to spare their feelings. All of my Christian friends know I am an atheist. I still love them and would do anything for them. Just because I believe the religion is false doesn't mean I think they are bad people. In most cases it's quite the opposite. My drummers mother is one of the most devout people I know, and she has shown me infinite kindness, grace and generosity in the years I've known her. I'm quite grateful for the love she's shown me.

    However, this does not make the bible any more true. My atheist friends have shown me just as much kindness and generosity. I myself strive to be a trustworthy and selfless friend.

    I don't think religion is necessary for morality. Their are many instances in the bible where gods judgement conflicts with what I believe to be the right thing to do.

    Anyway, to specifically answer your question Levi, I love everyone. Regardless of sexual orientation, religion, skin color, whatver. I just don't believe anything in religion is true "fact". Because of the evidence presented to me throughout my life I have come to the conclusion that god is not real. Because of the anecdotes provided to me by the bible and other religious texts I have also come to the conclusion that if god were real, he is a character of questionable morality and I would not worship him anyway.
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      CommentAuthorMaxsilver
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010 edited
     
    Garrett:I was an alter boy for many years in the Catholic church I attended....Father Hanson never once touched me in an inapropriate way.
    Yeah, some people messed up and did some bad things, but let that shit go man.
    I read on the news that some pot head had sex with some goats...........when did you start banging goats Max?


    I had sex with goats before I smoked weed. Your argument is invalid.
    • CommentAuthortylerFPI
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    after reading all of this, i have come to the conclusion that max is a douche bag.

    and that kenan's post are always too long to read.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    I know right?! Like words and stuff they're so hard dood.
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    i really like reading posts like these.
    KEEP THE ANIMOSITY FLOWING
    • CommentAuthortylerFPI
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Guest:I know right?! Like words and stuff they're so hard dood.


    no, it's not hard. just dont care to read it all.
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    tylerFPI:after reading all of this, i have come to the conclusion that max is a douche bag.

    and that kenan's post are always too long to read.

    having met and interacted with both of you, you are a much bigger douche than max IMO. And since all your context is based on this site, I'd say notice that he only trolls the site, you don't respect responses (by not reading what you criticize, as you said) and I think you're making it harder on every person of faith by even offering your trite arguments. Do work son
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    Kenan:Most of my friends are atheist. Some of my very best friends and bandmates are devout Christians. Depending on their personality we either have very meaningful talks about the naure of spirituality or I just avoid the topic of religion altogether because I want to spare their feelings. All of my Christian friends know I am an atheist. I still love them and would do anything for them. Just because I believe the religion is false doesn't mean I think they are bad people. In most cases it's quite the opposite. My drummers mother is one of the most devout people I know, and she has shown me infinite kindness, grace and generosity in the years I've known her. I'm quite grateful for the love she's shown me.

    However, this does not make the bible any more true. My atheist friends have shown me just as much kindness and generosity. I myself strive to be a trustworthy and selfless friend.

    I don't think religion is necessary for morality. Their are many instances in the bible where gods judgement conflicts with what I believe to be the right thing to do.

    Anyway, to specifically answer your question Levi, I love everyone. Regardless of sexual orientation, religion, skin color, whatver. I just don't believe anything in religion is true "fact". Because of the evidence presented to me throughout my life I have come to the conclusion that god is not real. Because of the anecdotes provided to me by the bible and other religious texts I have also come to the conclusion that if god were real, he is a character of questionable morality and I would not worship him anyway.


    So you're friends with them (which obviously is fine). Although you think they're making an idiotic choice in their faith? Even though, because of their viewpoint, they are ignorant? That their preference of faith has and is harming and killing millions if not billions of people around the world?
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      CommentAuthorLeviFaustian
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010 edited
     
    Just reviewed.

    Kenan, I meant to ask the friend question of Max, but your thumbnails are the same and I got mixd up. But as an Atheist, I suppose the question applies to you as well.

    I asked because of Maxs post:

    Maxwellsilver because this fairy tale has caused nothing but harm. also, it is almost impossible for me to speak my mind or anything truthful really, without offending pretty much everyone, because i live in the belt. belief in what i think is a big hoax has gotten countless people killed, it has prevented social progress all throughout history, and the world would be better off without it.
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    Since nobody really answered it,

    Negative Creep, I definitely think Atheists should be able to marry because the are just as human as Christians, homosexuals, transsexuals, etc
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    combo breaker
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      CommentAuthorLeviFaustian
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010 edited
     
    Saw that coming. Really did. Funny nevertheless.
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    im done, i just had to do it an even amount to an atheist and a deist.
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    i dont tthink all christians are idiotic. the westboro baptist church are idiots. most christians ae just following what they perceive as the ideal social norm. in addition, especially in the south, most people are reared from birth not to question god.

    so no, i dont consider it idiocy. i consider it indoctrination. furthermore as long as respect is shown to me and my beliefs as a secular humanist i will respect that people can believe whatever they want. i just think they are false beliefs and when those beliefs negatively impact dissenters lives i take issue with them from a moral standpoint.
    • CommentAuthortylerFPI
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Beeson:
    tylerFPI:after reading all of this, i have come to the conclusion that max is a douche bag.

    and that kenan's post are always too long to read.

    having met and interacted with both of you, you are a much bigger douche than max IMO. And since all your context is based on this site, I'd say notice that he only trolls the site, you don't respect responses (by not reading what you criticize, as you said) and I think you're making it harder on every person of faith by even offering your trite arguments. Do work son


    I never took a side in the argument or stated any kind argument toward the topic. I don't care to read his argument because I don't care about this article in general. It's a dumb argument. And if Max wants to troll people by trying to bash their personal beliefs then good for him. For someone who doesn't know him and doesn't know that he is just trolling...he comes off as a douche.
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    if you dont have any side, didnt read the article, and dont care in general, its odd youd pick up on one member's post, and have an opinion on it.

    however, for the most part, thats a better way to put it tyler
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Is it me or is Kenan saying the same thing over and over?
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    i probably am.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Great, this thread can stop now.
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      CommentAuthorMaxsilver
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2010 edited
     
    Beeson:
    tylerFPI:after reading all of this, i have come to the conclusion that max is a douche bag.

    and that kenan's post are always too long to read.

    having met and interacted with both of you, you are a much bigger douche than max IMO. And since all your context is based on this site, I'd say notice that he only trolls the site, you don't respect responses (by not reading what you criticize, as you said) and I think you're making it harder on every person of faith by even offering your trite arguments. Do work son


    Thank you Beeson. Your kindness knows no bounds.

    tylerFPI:
    Beeson:
    tylerFPI:after reading all of this, i have come to the conclusion that max is a douche bag.

    and that kenan's post are always too long to read.

    having met and interacted with both of you, you are a much bigger douche than max IMO. And since all your context is based on this site, I'd say notice that he only trolls the site, you don't respect responses (by not reading what you criticize, as you said) and I think you're making it harder on every person of faith by even offering your trite arguments. Do work son


    I never took a side in the argument or stated any kind argument toward the topic. I don't care to read his argument because I don't care about this article in general. It's a dumb argument. And if Max wants to troll people by trying to bash their personal beliefs then good for him. For someone who doesn't know him and doesn't know that he is just trolling...he comes off as a douche.


    • CommentAuthortylerFPI
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2010
     
    dang dude. you got me.
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      CommentAuthorMaxsilver
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2010
     
    Garrett:I was an alter boy for many years in the Catholic church I attended....Father Hanson never once touched me in an inapropriate way.
    Yeah, some people messed up and did some bad things, but let that shit go man.
    I read on the news that some pot head had sex with some goats...........when did you start banging goats Max?


    Wait I just realized that dudes name is father Hanson. Oh man. Here it goes.

    • CommentAuthorwillvc
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2010 edited
     
    Beeson:
    tylerFPI:after reading all of this, i have come to the conclusion that max is a douche bag.

    and that kenan's post are always too long to read.

    having met and interacted with both of you, you are a much bigger douche than max IMO. And since all your context is based on this site, I'd say notice that he only trolls the site, you don't respect responses (by not reading what you criticize, as you said) and I think you're making it harder on every person of faith by even offering your trite arguments. Do work son


    I agree with Beeson here. You get mad at Max for trolling, you don't see the humor in it. That's just silly, lighten up dude!

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    • CommentAuthorJacob DB
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2010
     
    Well at least Tyler wasn't enough of a coward to let others take the blame while his trolling was getting called out.
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2010
     
    Max did?
    • CommentAuthorwillvc
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2010
     
    Jacob DB:Well at least Tyler wasn't enough of a coward to let others take the blame while his trolling was getting called out.


    So in other words it was just a good troll?
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      CommentAuthorTravis
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010
     
    no
    willvc:
    Jacob DB:Well at least Tyler wasn't enough of a coward to let others take the blame while his trolling was getting called out.


    So in other words it was just a good troll?


    no such thing.
    • CommentAuthorwillvc
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010
     
    Travis:no
    willvc:
    Jacob DB:Well at least Tyler wasn't enough of a coward to let others take the blame while his trolling was getting called out.


    So in other words it was just a good troll?


    no such thing.


    o lol sry
    • CommentAuthorwillvc
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010
     
    Jacob DB:Well at least Tyler wasn't enough of a coward to let others take the blame while his trolling was getting called out.


    Oh and it wasn't my fault that they got called out for doing something they didn't do. You guys had the evidence, remember? Just sayin'
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010
     
    You are a small child wil.
    • CommentAuthorwillvc
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010
     
    Beeson:You are a small child wil.


    I guess you could say that. I, on the other hand, think it's childish to call out people for things they didn't do and cry about it on a forum. Maybe that's just me?
    • CommentAuthorJosh Topic
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010
     
    I seem remember you all apologizing for trolling and your comments above seem to be the contrary.
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010
     
    I think you all need to stop playing will troll dolls, that stuff aint been in trend in at least a decade.
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      CommentAuthorMaxsilver
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2010 edited
     
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2010
     
    willvc:
    Beeson:You are a small child wil.


    I guess you could say that. I, on the other hand, think it's childish to call out people for things they didn't do and cry about it on a forum. Maybe that's just me?

    wil, you are definitely the johnson and johnson no more tears formula. done talking about it on the board, we can discuss this when we inevitably run into eachother in person.
    • CommentAuthorwillvc
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2010
     
    Beeson:
    willvc:
    Beeson:You are a small child wil.


    I guess you could say that. I, on the other hand, think it's childish to call out people for things they didn't do and cry about it on a forum. Maybe that's just me?

    wil, you are definitely the johnson and johnson no more tears formula. done talking about it on the board, we can discuss this when we inevitably run into eachother in person.


    wat
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2010
     
    lol he mad
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2010
     
    guest posting on this site is like letting triumph the insult comic dog have a say in everything
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2010
     
    lewis vs clark are no good
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      CommentAuthorchukrz
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2010
     
    max, high five for the hanson reference
    • CommentAuthorwillvc
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2010
     
    Garrett:lewis vs clark are no good


    You're preaching to the choir, man!
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2010
     
    literally, saying it right to the band, i know!
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2010
     
    Yeah! Be a tough guy! Right to the band! On the internet! Yeah!
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2010
     
    Yeah, I have no problem telling someone in person I dont care for their band - ask that guy that got up in arms in there will be blood.
    • CommentAuthorwillvc
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    Garrett:Yeah, I have no problem telling someone in person I dont care for their band - ask that guy that got up in arms in there will be blood.


    I have no problem hearing that......in a thread where it is somewhat relevant.
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    oh well