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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2010
     
    (CNN) -- Political, religious and sexual behaviors may be reflections of intelligence, a new study finds.

    Evolutionary psychologist Satoshi Kanazawa at the the London School of Economics and Political Science correlated data on these behaviors with IQ from a large national U.S. sample and found that, on average, people who identified as liberal and atheist had higher IQs. This applied also to sexual exclusivity in men, but not in women. The findings will be published in the March 2010 issue of Social Psychology Quarterly.

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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2010
     
    The Article"The IQ differences, while statistically significant, are not stunning"

    "Bailey also said that these preferences may stem from a desire to show superiority or elitism, which also has to do with IQ. In fact, aligning oneself with "unconventional" philosophies such as liberalism or atheism may be "ways to communicate to everyone that you're pretty smart," he said."

    "and can also be a means of showing superiority."


    So basically the increased intelligence isn't changing how wrong you* are, isn't really making you any smarter, and atheists are more prone to douchebag behaviors like trying to make yourself appear better than everyone else.

    *you is used in a pre-response to all the atheists who were about to reply to the article with some egotistical blather "well none of these findings are surprising"; not you as in Kenan
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2010 edited
     
    why thank you for sparing me guest = )
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    Guest:
    So basically the increased intelligence isn't changing how wrong you* are, isn't really making you any smarter, and atheists are more prone to douchebag behaviors like trying to make yourself appear better than everyone else.

    *you is used in a pre-response to all the atheists who were about to reply to the article with some egotistical blather "well none of these findings are surprising"; not you as in Kenan


    I love when people make comments like this (trying to make yourself appear better than everyone else) and in the same sentence, they do the same thing themselves (the increased intelligence isn't changing how wrong you* are). What's that about douchebag behavior?
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    really not that surprising.
    look at the advancement of science, and general understanding during the "dark ages" of christianity.
    it is almost non existent.

    people accept religious propoganda as being "right" with zero factual basis.
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    (in some cases.)
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2010
     
    Should we be surprised at this?

    Majority of the strong religious people in the US live in the south. Which, in most cases, is much poorer than the rest of the country. Most stronger liberals live up north, and most have more money than those in the south. The people up north, for the mos part, are exposed to better school systems and eventually go to a good college. While in the south, the schooling is not nearly as good and if they can afford to make it to a college, it will not be as strong of a school as can be found up north. Yes, there are some great colleges in the south but they are far out numbered when compared to those up north.
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2010 edited
     
    for the most part a thinking mind is going to question everything much more strongly, ergo questioning religion. i didnt accept the answers given to me about god always existing when i was 5, even though i still believed and had faith like i was told because i blindly trusted adults.

    its in the nature of the inquisitive mind not to accept god i think, so im not being a douche when i say the findings make sense.

    on the other hand obviously there are plenty of "smart" theologians. though i strongly believe the fear of gods wrath and indoctrination play a much larger role in christianity than most christians are willing to admit to themselves or others.
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      CommentAuthorFlanagan
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2010 edited
     
    andy mcGEE:really not that surprising.
    look at the advancement of science, and general understanding during the "dark ages" of christianity.
    it is almost non existent..


    the dark ages were pretty shitty for everyone involved... and youd be surprised how much of modern science was contributed to by theologians, monks, and professors at the Christian universities. neither galileo nor copernicus were unbelievers. one has to really make the distinction between a specific expression of christianity in a specific time in history and the overall arc of such a movement. like science, Christianity progresses and reveals new things through time (sometimes we gain insights, sometimes we lose insights as our world-views change)... unlike, science, Christianity is dealing with different issues and approaching truth in a different manner.

    science and christianity has never been incompatible to me, or a lot of the Church. the anti-intellectualism found in few fundamentalist branches of Christianity are viewing the relationship between religion and science the same way as many scientists are.... as if they are opposed to or in competition with one another, which doesnt give each field credit to their natures.

    edit: id also like to add that christianity and science arent going to be perfectly compatible due to christianity's concern with faith and the supernatural... something outside the scientific realm... and im ok with that. ive come to realize that life cannot always be deduced to scientific proofs or clauses... or even if something isnt scientifically proven, it doesnt necessarily mean it's false
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    There is a lot I want to say about the post above me, but I just don't have time too right now.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2010
     
    ^ i.e. I have to Google a bunch of shit and formulate it like it's my opinion.
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    Nah, I'll just cut and paste from six years worth of religious discussions from this site...
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2010 edited
     
    i dont completely disagree with what you said flanagan, however in those days there was no choice but to be christian.


    everyone was a christian, because if you werent, you would most likely be murdered. ESPECIALLY if you were coming up with radical scientific ideas and a prominent public figure.

    same goes for art in that period. obviously i dont know, perhaps the masters WERE ridiculously devout. the fact remains that the work they were commissioned to do was by the church so if they wanted to eat, they made religious art.
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    pretty much every great philosopher had a theory of the omnipotent.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2010
     
    what a coincidence - there are no great philosophers on this website! just a bunch of book/google nerds
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2010
     
    inclination:pretty much every great philosopher had a theory of the omnipotent.



    that is a very broad, general, and ineffectual statement. there are plenty of philosophers that are atheist, theist, and somewhere in between.
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      CommentAuthorMaxsilver
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2010
     
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      CommentAuthormis-one
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2010
     
    So, as someone that isn't atheist. What is the humor in the above image exactly? A couple of you post that shit up and I'm assuming it's either 1. to get a rise or 2. because you find it insensitive, thus funny. Enlighten me hoes..
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      CommentAuthorMaxsilver
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2010
     
    mis-one:So, as someone that isn't atheist. What is the humor in the above image exactly? A couple of you post that shit up and I'm assuming it's either 1. to get a rise or 2. because you find it insensitive, thus funny. Enlighten me hoes..


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      CommentAuthormis-one
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2010
     
    ..mark
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    i could honestly care less what religion someone is. i'm an atheist but i'm not going to go out trying to convince others to be. imagine how boring the world would be if every person followed the same belief system.
    • CommentAuthorelmerfudd
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2010 edited
     
    Rob Zombie???
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      CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2010
     
    Sorry!
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    does god believe in god?
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      CommentAuthorMaxsilver
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2010
     
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    You can attach any caption to any picture in reference to the picture above.
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      CommentAuthorchukrz
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    if there is no higher power, wouldn't everyone know for sure and not question it?
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    huh? explain that.
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      CommentAuthorchukrz
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    do atheists know where we came from? something that isn't just a theory?
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      CommentAuthorAustinn
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    star dust
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    chukrz:do atheists know where we came from? something that isn't just a theory?


    so creationists know where we came from? something that isnt just a theory?


    sorry bro, ancient texts do not count as fact. you just have "faith" that god exists and created us. faith is just a really strong hunch...or theory.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    I'm almost positive you didn't have to quote/un-quote faith, Kenan.
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    the evolution of man is a TERRIBLE way to try and prove or disprove the existence of god
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      CommentAuthorTravis
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    thats pretty dumb chukrz.
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      CommentAuthorTravis
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    andy mcGEE:the evolution of man is a TERRIBLE way to try and prove or disprove the existence of god


    It does disprove the way man was created according to the bible, though. So, in a way it makes one question other aspects of the bible, and of the god described in it.
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    it is a never ending cycle between atheists and creationists.
    so it is a waste of time.
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    the problem is that most of y'all are making assumptions that simply are not implicit in the study's findings. you're suggesting that the qualities of higher intelligence (advanced reasoning skills and the like) are REASONS that people are atheist, but anyone with a decent IQ (hehe) or anyone who has taken a high school statistics class knows that correlation does not necessarily imply causation. the article itself proposes an explanation of the correlation (which i find to be just as plausible) being a result of an attempt to align oneself with a certain group for whatever advantages that may produce; either way, the relationship between intelligence and atheism is NOT shown to be causal. also, my statement about great philosophers (and not just philosophers but mathematicians, engineers, writers, etc.) is not "ineffectual" cuz it seems to fly in the face of the findings. i guess i shouldn'tve said "pretty much every great" cuz that's a matter of opinion, but the idea is there are plenty of people we can point to throughout history that demonstrated an (often RATIONAL) belief in a supreme being(s); this seems to conflict with y'alls idea that intelligence produces atheism.
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    andy mcGEE:it is a never ending cycle between atheists and creationists.
    so it is a waste of time.
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      CommentAuthorchukrz
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    Kenan:
    chukrz:do atheists know where we came from? something that isn't just a theory?


    so creationists know where we came from? something that isnt just a theory?


    sorry bro, ancient texts do not count as fact. you just have "faith" that god exists and created us. faith is just a really strong hunch...or theory.


    I never suggested that creationists had more than faith. I just want to understand atheists' reasoning.

    Travis:thats pretty dumb chukrz.


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      CommentAuthorAndrewski
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    LeviFaustian:
    andy mcGEE:it is a never ending cycle between atheists and creationists.
    so it is a waste of time.
    • CommentAuthorrandom
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    wtf? "creationists" refers to goofy science - this whole deal should be a "neverending cycle between people who believe in the spiritual and those who think their existence is meaningless."
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      CommentAuthorTravis
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    "if there is no higher power, wouldn't everyone know for sure and not question it? "

    you don't see how illogical that is? why on earth would everyone know if there wasn't a higher power? humans INVENT religions for obvious reasons (to answer life's questions etc...) the fact is none of us will ever know one way or the other. i just know that all the religions i've learned about are silly as shit.
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    random:wtf? "creationists" refers to goofy science - this whole deal should be a "neverending cycle between people who believe in the spiritual and those who think their existence is meaningless."


    why do you have to believe in god to belive your life has meaning?
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2010
     
    random:wtf? "creationists" refers to goofy science - this whole deal should be a "neverending cycle between people who believe in the spiritual and those who think their existence is meaningless."


    i dont think my existence is meaningless. thatd be really sad and depressing.


    i have found more meaning in life and nature since i rejected the idea of the supernatural.
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      CommentAuthorthomas
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2010
     
    anyone here ever received healing?
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    sexual healing?
    • CommentAuthortylerFPI
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2010
     
    lol
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      CommentAuthorchukrz
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2010
     
    thomas:anyone here ever received healing?


    yes! rules
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2010
     
    Smells like worms.
    A can of them might have been opened
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2010
     
    my body heals itself every night when i sleep and every day when i put nutritious wholesome food inside it.

    my mind heals itself every day when i challenge my self in various situations, examine how i can turn negative experiences into positive ones and take steps to strengthen my bonds with friends and loved ones.