Video Woman banned from Kanpain in Winston-Salem for "bad tipping"

- CommentAuthormis-one
- CommentTimeFeb 26th 2010
A woman is banned from a Kanpai in Winston-Salem because workers claim she doesn't tip enough.
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeFeb 26th 2010 edited
uh-mazing.

she's talking about "fair treatment" and shit but she's not being fair if she doesn't tip well. that's a server's livelihood.
- CommentAuthorKoger
- CommentTimeFeb 26th 2010
a. I'm glad this made it to cnn.

b. I wonder what her tips were like pre 18% gratuity? She must be fairly notorious if they know her on spot and she's done it enough to warrant that kind of action.
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeFeb 26th 2010
i'm sure this will QUICKLY turn into a race thing too.
- CommentAuthorFaith Skeptic
- CommentTimeFeb 26th 2010
It's not unfair if she's been going to the same restaurant for years and doesn't tip. If she doesn't want to tip the staff she should cook at home.
- CommentAuthorGuest
- CommentTimeFeb 26th 2010
In my experience black people don't tip much, ever.
- CommentAuthorJosh Topic
- CommentTimeFeb 26th 2010
That sounds like something garret would say.
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeFeb 26th 2010
i hate to say it but the majority of african-americans and foreigners that i get tip between 5% and 12%. They're also the most demanding and some of the rudest customers to get too. I wish it weren't the case but it tends to be that way.
- CommentAuthorDavid
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
Maybe he just doesn't want her scaring off customers.
- CommentAuthorTaraness
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010 edited
I don't think I've ever had a black person tip me less than 15%. The clientele at my restaurant usually tips 20%, so I get bummed out. But then I just remind myself that there are some people out there that think 15% is an acceptable amount to tip for good service so I just shrug it off. But sometimes the difference between 15% and 20% is $5 so that sucks.

My managers were talking about this lady yesterday. Apparently Kanpain wants other local restaurants to blacklist the lady. We can't blacklist her but we certainly all looked at her picture on the internet. We'll know her when we see her. Hahaha.
- CommentAuthorLeviFaustian
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
Do restaurants not have the right to deny anyone service as long as it isn't discriminatory towards race, age, gender, etc?

Also, as a place where the food preparation is more than simply preparing the food, but as a form of entertainment; it should be understood that a bit more tip should be more than "the usual". At the least 20%.

In fact, I think the chef doing all the fancy tricks splits the tip @ the table in half with the person at that style of restaurants that takes your order and fills your drink.
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
LeviFaustian:Do restaurants not have the right to deny anyone service as long as it isn't discriminatory towards race, age, gender, etc?

Also, as a place where the food preparation is more than simply preparing the food, but as a form of entertainment; it should be understood that a bit more tip should be more than "the usual". At the least 20%.

In fact, I think the chef doing all the fancy tricks splits the tip @ the table in half with the person at that style of restaurants that takes your order and fills your drink.

any business owner has the right to deny service to anyone. It's privately owned.

And also, anyone that thinks that 20% is more than the norm is living in the past. 20% is the average and 15% is poor.
- CommentAuthorKenan
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
i tip 15% if a server is generally just whatever and doesnt provide great service (or if im really broke, sorry). if its decent 18% . if someone really blows me away its 20% and up.

if someone really drops the ball and sucks ass and acts like they dont care i will tip anywhere from 0-5% just to spite them.
- CommentAuthorJosh Topic
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010 edited
LeviFaustian:Do restaurants not have the right to deny anyone service as long as it isn't discriminatory towards race, age, gender, etc?

Also, as a place where the food preparation is more than simply preparing the food, but as a form of entertainment; it should be understood that a bit more tip should be more than "the usual". At the least 20%.

In fact, I think the chef doing all the fancy tricks splits the tip @ the table in half with the person at that style of restaurants that takes your order and fills your drink.

yeah, a few of my friends use to work there and they split their tips between the cook, waitress, hostess and bus boys there.
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
yeah if i make $200 in a night, I'll be tipping out at least $35 that night to bartender, hostess, etc..
- CommentAuthorelmerfudd
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
i mean sooner or later, you people gotta cut us common folk some slack. it used to be 15%, then out of nowhere 18% was spat out at us and all of a sudden became the tipping norm, now 20% is the only acceptable rate? i mean give me a break! i've never even heard of that until this very moment.

most servers i know do not seem to have any problems with money, unless they fail at budgeting properly. i'm talking about paying the apartment rent, credit card bills, and leisure money. so stop being ridiculous.
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
That's bc we get 20%.
- CommentAuthorBeeson
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
Sometimes I'll spend at least as long as any server or waitress would with their customer, plus I get all manner of grease/ cow poop/ metal shavings all over my hands and arms, and no one has ever tipped me. I'm with Mr. Pink on this one, you better be damn good at what you're doing to warrant a tip, livelihood or not
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
Well who said anything about tipping that much if it weren't warrented? I mean obviously if I had a shitty waitress, I wouldn't tip them 20% bc they didn't do their job.
- CommentAuthorinclination
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
Beeson:Sometimes I'll spend at least as long as any server or waitress would with their customer, plus I get all manner of grease/ cow poop/ metal shavings all over my hands and arms, and no one has ever tipped me. I'm with Mr. Pink on this one, you better be damn good at what you're doing to warrant a tip, livelihood or not

what's your hourly wage?
- CommentAuthorFaith Skeptic
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
Yea, because the most I ever made hourly via wage while working in a restaurant was $2.15 an hour...Fuck you for not tipping
- CommentAuthorelmerfudd
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2010
LauraTiny:That's bc we get 20%.

what i'm getting at is, majority of the time, at the end of the night the tips any server receives are usually adequate if not above that. no matter what percentage of the check the customer includes, you're still making PLENTY of money,unless like i stated above, you can't budget the money you have been given worth a darn.

however rude it may be not to do so, leaving a tip is not required. so why do the expectations of customers keep changing when the job of a server is pretty much the same thing through and through.
- CommentAuthorFaith Skeptic
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
elmerfudd:
LauraTiny:That's bc we get 20%.

what i'm getting at is, majority of the time, at the end of the night the tips any server receives are usually adequate if not above that. no matter what percentage of the check the customer includes, you're still making PLENTY of money,unless like i stated above, you can't budget the money you have been given worth a darn.

however rude it may be not to do so, leaving a tip is not required. so why do the expectations of customers keep changing when the job of a server is pretty much the same thing through and through.

Woah woah woah...Where are you getting your information regarding the nightly tip outs servers get and the "PLEANY of money" they make? Do you have anything other than some bullshit anecdotal evidence or are you going to continue to argue a point you clearly know NOTHING about? Have you ever worked these jobs?
You're just brushing off what the people who do these jobs are telling you. You are right, leaving a tip isn't "required", except it is where servers make their living. If you don't tip, you are just exploiting their services and are a total shit bag. If you don't tip you are paying for the food and cooks services but not the servers. The situation is much different if servers were making, say, $10 an hour in wage, but they aren't. So if you don't want to tip, don't goto a restaurant.

God damn people are so fucking stupid sometimes...
- CommentAuthorDavid
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
I always try and tip about 20%-25%, if I have the money on me.

The argument of, "I don't get tipped for what I do and I do so much more than you" is fucking stupid. Last time I checked, people who aren't waiters make at least $7.25 an hour, unlike waiters and waitresses.
- CommentAuthorsuggsct
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
faithskeptic said he maid $2.15 via hourly wages, which would suck if not for decent tips. but it does seem like the acceptable percentage for tipping has gone up, is this because servers hourly wages have gone down?
- CommentAuthorFaith Skeptic
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
No.

I also mistyped $3.15 was the most i ever made, but the difference there is miniscule. Never had a paycheck from a restaurant top $40.

I think the reasoning for the tipping rate increase is that 15% should be a bare minimum, not the standard. As cost of living increases across the board it impacts those who make less more than those who make more. So if you can afford to go out to dinner, the difference between you tipping 15, 18, or 20% is really small, and doesn't really crush the customer. Where as on the other end, the difference for the server who is living day to day on their cash tips, the difference is huge.
- CommentAuthorelmerfudd
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
Woah woah woah...where are you getting your information regarding how i tip, my convictions, and my knowledge?

my comments are not indicative of how i tip, trust me. unlike some of the members that have posted, i don't even base the tip off of service. the fact of the matter is i know servers need my money so i'm not hesitant to be generous with it. i'm also usually the one out of my group of friends who makes sure everyone in the party at least leaves something.

i'm not trying to start an argument, just trying to poke a finger at this whole minimum tip amount system. i mean who establishes it? and since we've already established that it's not required, a tip is free money. so if a server is going to complain about free money, don't be a server. even though it sounds like it, i'm not trying to be an a-hole.
- CommentAuthorTravis
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
I hate servers. I spit in their tips.
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
I think, before you can have a real opinion about how much to tip, you need to work in a restaurant as a server. In fact, I think everyone who goes to restaurants should do that. People just don't understand how much work it is and how much we get shit on half the time.
- CommentAuthorTravis
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
everyone says that about their job laura. you make me want to tip less.
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
Well you're a fucking idiot.
- CommentAuthorTravis
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
hahahahaha
- CommentAuthorTaraness
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
inclination:
Beeson:Sometimes I'll spend at least as long as any server or waitress would with their customer, plus I get all manner of grease/ cow poop/ metal shavings all over my hands and arms, and no one has ever tipped me. I'm with Mr. Pink on this one, you better be damn good at what you're doing to warrant a tip, livelihood or not

what's your hourly wage?

Has no one ever gone over this with you? Essentially, nothing. $2.35. My paychecks are $6, at most. And that's bi-weekly.

If you can't afford to tip, go to Burger King.
- CommentAuthorTravis
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
tara, hes on your side. chill.
- CommentAuthordavidoffbeat
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
Yes it would appear he quoted Beeson to specifically ask HIM what his hourly wage is, considering it appears he is not a server, and receives no tips.
- CommentAuthorBeeson
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
Faith Skeptic:Yea, because the most I ever made hourly via wage while working in a restaurant was $2.15 an hour...Fuck you for not tipping

never said I didn't tip. Your weiner is on backwards.

See, I make a salary, because I didn't apply for and accept a job where my hourly wage is $3 an hour, like servers did. You want to bet on your pay, don't blame me, blame the system you cater to.
And Tara, if y'all can't afford to sweat a tip, work at burger king.
- CommentAuthorMaxsilver
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010 edited
Beeson:
Faith Skeptic:Yea, because the most I ever made hourly via wage while working in a restaurant was $2.15 an hour...Fuck you for not tipping

never said I didn't tip. Your weiner is on backwards.

See, I make a salary, because I didn't apply for and accept a job where my hourly wage is $3 an hour, like servers did. You want to bet on your pay, don't blame me, blame the system you cater to.
And Tara, if y'all can't afford to sweat a tip, work at burger king.

choosing where you work and hang out rules.
- CommentAuthorBeeson
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
Hell yes it does The Maxx
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
No one is complaining about the job. We are complaining about selfish fucks who would not tip and be perfectly ok with that.
- CommentAuthorTaraness
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
Beeson:
Faith Skeptic:Yea, because the most I ever made hourly via wage while working in a restaurant was $2.15 an hour...Fuck you for not tipping

never said I didn't tip. Your weiner is on backwards.

See, I make a salary, because I didn't apply for and accept a job where my hourly wage is $3 an hour, like servers did. You want to bet on your pay, don't blame me, blame the system you cater to.
And Tara, if y'all can't afford to sweat a tip, work at burger king.

You know, I'm not going to say what I want to say. Because I don't want to get personal with you on the internet. (Besides, I know how offended you get when I call you out about anything on here.) So all I'm going to say is that was a really arrogant thing to say.
- CommentAuthorJacob DB
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
LauraTiny:No one is complaining about the job. We are complaining about selfish fucks who would not tip and be perfectly ok with that.

which is the shit youre complaining about with your job. You said earlier in the discussion that everyone that goes to resturants should work there so would understand half they shit you deal with. That's called complaining about the job.
- CommentAuthorBeeson
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
Tara, I'll live, please speak your mind
- CommentAuthorGuest
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2010
Seems damn selfish to expect a 20% tip on every fucking bill.
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2010
Jacob DB:
LauraTiny:No one is complaining about the job. We are complaining about selfish fucks who would not tip and be perfectly ok with that.

which is the shit youre complaining about with your job. You said earlier in the discussion that everyone that goes to resturants should work there so would understand half they shit you deal with. That's called complaining about the job.

No bc there hasn't been one time where I've said I hate my job. I actually like it. I just don't like some of the customers I have to deal with. Huge difference.
- CommentAuthorBeeson
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2010
Customers aren't part, nay the entire point, of your job?
- CommentAuthorKoger
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2010
Beeson:Customers aren't part, nay the entire point, of your job?

i would posit that the point of 90-95% of what folks do in regard to their job is to earn money in order to pursue their personal lives. Few are blessed with truly altruistic leanings in regard to the preparation and serving of food and wine on a commercial scale.
- CommentAuthorLauraTiny
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2010
Beeson:Customers aren't part, nay the entire point, of your job?

SOME of the customers. SOME. and actually the part i like best about waiting tables is the constant motion. there's hardly a time where i'm standing around waiting for something to happen like you would in a retail job.
- CommentAuthorBeeson
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2010
Of course koger and I agree, personally I couldn't give a damn less about the things I sell. However, what I'm pointing out is while you're at your job. We all have missions there, and those missions are what we are paid for. The mission of someone in a customer service field is to tend to customers as much as within reason.
- CommentAuthorGuest
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2010
Laura don't you have a 4 year college degree? If so, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR LIFE??????

Signed,
Your parents
- CommentAuthorinclination
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2010
Taraness:
inclination:
Beeson:Sometimes I'll spend at least as long as any server or waitress would with their customer, plus I get all manner of grease/ cow poop/ metal shavings all over my hands and arms, and no one has ever tipped me. I'm with Mr. Pink on this one, you better be damn good at what you're doing to warrant a tip, livelihood or not

what's your hourly wage?

Has no one ever gone over this with you? Essentially, nothing. $2.35. My paychecks are $6, at most. And that's bi-weekly.

If you can't afford to tip, go to Burger King.

uhhh nevermind. i see why people are stiffing you.

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