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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    andy mcGEE:That is speculating, what if they actually cared about each other?


    and youre speculating too.
    but to answer your question of 'what if they actually cared about each other?' - ITS STILL AGAINST THE LAW. DEAL WITH IT PERVERT (him, not you. eh, you might be a pervert too, i dont know. )

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      CommentAuthoroccupant
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    it's not against the law for them to "go out" or whatever, but if they really did care for one another then they could have waited 2 years so they could have sex. love is wanting what is best for one another. breaking laws, as silly as they might seem, doesn't show love.
    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    so if they actually cared about each other you would still think it is wrong because it is against the law?
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      CommentAuthoroccupant
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    yes.
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      CommentAuthoroccupant
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    i think it takes a while for "love" to mature, and 14 year old girls are weird enough, so i think she should have waited.
    i think a sexual relationship at that age leads to nothing good.
    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    so two 14 year olds shouldnt have sex either?
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      CommentAuthoroccupant
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    IMO, no.
    i have a pretty conservative view on sex though.
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      CommentAuthormis-one
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    This debate needs some more scenarios for me to really settle on a decision.
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      CommentAuthorLockhart
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    My grandma was 14 when she had my uncle and my dad. SO i'm glad that happened.
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    as i mentioned, my parents got together when my dad was 19 and my mom 15...im pretty glad that happened. she had me when she was 21 but i know they didnt wait til then to start practicing.
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    Kenan:as i mentioned, my parents got together when my dad was 19 and my mom 15...im pretty glad that happened. she had me when she was 21 but i know they didnt wait til then to start practicing.


    start practicing what? having a kid? did they giveup several for adoption before you or something?
    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    I think practicing by doing IT
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    pennywise? stephen king? clown?
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      CommentAuthorPAUL GENET
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    andy you still havent given an answer .i was just listening to a doctor on the radio this weekend how especially at a young age girls are looking for a relationship or love and young men are looking for sex.my own mother was married and had a kid by the time she was 15 but she was also part of a large family of 15 children and had been helping take care of her brothers and sisters since she was 10 she also told me she was not ready to be in a serious relationship even though in her household you had to grow up fast.i want to know how you feel a 14 year old girl is ready for a serious realtionship involving sex?
    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    If your question is where I would draw the line, I couldn't give you an age. Because some people are more or less mature than others.

    """""i want to know how you feel a 14 year old girl is ready for a serious realtionship involving sex? """"""

    I am sure I just have a more relaxed view maybe than some people do regarding sex? Insteading of focusing on the negative consequences of having sex (unwanted pregnancy, stds, not being ready, not being mature, etc) I am more worried about the negative consequences of repressing sexuality in people that are hitting puberty. Also, sex is a very real part of relationships. It always has been. It is a natural, healthy part of human nature.

    I will say most 14 year olds are probably not old enough or mature enough or ready to have sex. But this is definitely not universally true, so I can't see how or why I could judge it as wrong.
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      CommentAuthorKenan
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    im just saying i dont think they waited until she were 21 to start having sex. idk when they did because i dont want to know those details and this statement alone is making me cringe slightly but nothing really bad happened from their relationship. unless of course you count me being born a bad thing, which some of you might.


    that being said this is a different day and age with the advent of online predators and such so we as a society need to be more cautious i suppose. they were also living in pierre south dakota and the age gap was pretty normal just because the population was/is not very large. really i dont think its necessarily right that a 19 year old should be boning a 14 year old, but i think that the punishment should not be so severe if it can be established that they did have a loving healthy relationship.
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    Garrett:
    andy mcGEE:That is speculating, what if they actually cared about each other?


    and youre speculating too.
    but to answer your question of 'what if they actually cared about each other?' - ITS STILL AGAINST THE LAW. DEAL WITH IT PERVERT (him, not you. eh, you might be a pervert too, i dont know. )


    I mean, resisting the actions/decisions of Police is against the law, and they seem to do a whole lot of fucked up shit. So I guess if I step in front of a cop trying to taze a 78 year old woman for following his instructions, I might as well rape a baby.
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    My mom had my sister when she was 14 and had me before she was over the legal age of 18. My wife currently is about the same difference in age as the 19 and 14 year old situation and we almost dated when i was 18 so i'm glad to think all of you think i'd be a pervert then. I don't think "waiting" has anything to do with love and i think it's ridiculous to term it wrong just because it's illegal.

    Also, unwanted pregnancies happen at all ages. Don't use that as an arguement here because that just sounds like teaching abstinence instead of prevention.
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009
     
    i'll say this - i know you josh....you ARE a pervert. or at least you were when we hung out. you disgust me.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    Josh Topic:My mom had my sister when she was 14 and had me before she was over the legal age of 18. My wife currently is about the same difference in age as the 19 and 14 year old situation and we almost dated when i was 18 so i'm glad to think all of you think i'd be a pervert then. I don't think "waiting" has anything to do with love and i think it's ridiculous to term it wrong just because it's illegal.

    Also, unwanted pregnancies happen at all ages. Don't use that as an arguement here because that just sounds like teaching abstinence instead of prevention.


    YOU ARE A MORON. IF YOU FEEL LIKE AN ANIMAL AND WANT TO PRETEND YOU ARE ONE, GO AHEAD. BUT, JUST BECAUSE YOU GIVE IN ON HORMONES, DON'T TRY TO ACT LIKE YOU'RE SOMEONE SPECIAL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T RESIST YOURSELF. WHATEVER DUDE, WHATEVER MAKES YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT.
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    haha. i don't even know how to respond to this.
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    oh and i just want to reiterate my opinion from the other thread. I don't know the details of that particular situation and neither do any of you. I refuse to say it's wrong because it's illegal or just because she was younger. I think this is all a very grey area and is not as simple as saying under a certain age someone is not ready. Everyone is different and some people are sexually mature at a much younger age and then you have people like garrett that still won't be sexually mature when he's 30. I think instead of restricting kids we need to be working with them to have them understand what sex means to them and helping them have the strength to back that stance, whatever that might be.


    basically what I'm trying to say is Garrett shouldn't be having sex until he starts paying rent and stops buying toys.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    WELL JOSH TOPIC SAID IT, MAKE IT A LAW.
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    Your Billy Mays key is stuck guest
    • CommentAuthorVagrant
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    Beeson:Your Billy Mays key is stuck guest


    i laughed really hard once i got this.
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      CommentAuthorLockhart
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2009
     
    Vagrant:
    Beeson:Your Billy Mays key is stuck guest


    i laughed really hard once i got this.

    Luckily you're six foot, otherwise that would have flew right over your head.
    • CommentAuthorTaraness
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2009
     
    Guest, you've been making some hilarious and awesome comments lately. Please create an account for your comments, simply so that I can mentally attribute all of the words to one single person instead of wondering if it's lots of people.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2009
     
    Tara. this is how you can figure out who i am.
    Remember this night? Vagina, vodka bottles, candy canes, and tooth paste.
    • CommentAuthorTaraness
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2009
     
    Yes! Yes I remember!
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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009
     
    Guest:
    Remember this night? Vagina, vodka bottles, candy canes, and tooth paste.


    all things that touched Taras mouth last night


    i am just joking, i dont know if she brushed her teeth or ate a candy cane last night.
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      CommentAuthorLineback
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
     
    Guest, you forgot about the crochet needles and the seductive sounds of Afro WHores II playing in the not-so-distant trailer next door
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    I love Lineback.
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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
     
    Maxwellsilver:I love Lineback.


    well no one loves you so gtfo brahhh
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    I love me. That is one more than no one. :)
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      CommentAuthorBeeson
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
     
    Maxwellsilver:I love me. That is one more than no one. :)

    i like you pretty good max, id say love is a strong word cause we dont know eachother that well but i think in the overall scheme of things and the loving of mankind, i love you too.
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      CommentAuthorLineback
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
     
    I love Mr. Maxwell, because he hides Ryan Evans shoes.
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      CommentAuthorbmilt
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2009
     
    "I will say most 14 year olds are probably not old enough or mature enough or ready to have sex. But this is definitely not universally true, so I can't see how or why I could judge it as wrong."


    ^ in the case you are talking about, this is definitely true, she was definitely taken advantage of, i know the girl personally she's my girlfriends sister as ive already said though. just sayin'. since everyone wants to refer to that situation
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    Lineback:I love Mr. Maxwell, because he hides Ryan Evans shoes.


    LOL <3
    • CommentAuthorVagrant
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2009
     
    Lineback:I love Mr. Maxwell, because he hides Ryan Evans shoes.


    i love matthew woodstock because he in fact hides your shoes:)