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General man rapes 4 yr old, gets 1 year in prison.

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    this makes me sick. title of the thread says it all.

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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2009
     
    his face reminds me of the perv dad in the legend of billy jean. the one who owned the store and groped her

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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2009
     
    You can't tell a 4 year old what she can and can't do with her body! It was probably consensual!

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      CommentAuthorPapaClyde
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2009
     
    Guest:You can't tell a 4 year old what she can and can't do with her body! It was probably consensual!


    worst guest post ever!!!! just die.

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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2009
     
    andy mcGEE:I am against the entire idea of having laws governing when you can and cannot have sex. It was consensual in the fact that the girl AGREED TO SEX. Saying someone is too young to know what to do with their own body is also ridiculous. What if they genuinely cared about each other? Stranger things have happened between people with a LOT MORE gap in their age.

    • CommentAuthorJacob DB
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2009
     
    Garrett wins.

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      CommentAuthorLockhart
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2009
     
    Garrett:
    andy mcGEE:I am against the entire idea of having laws governing when you can and cannot have sex. It was consensual in the fact that the girl AGREED TO SEX. Saying someone is too young to know what to do with their own body is also ridiculous. What if they genuinely cared about each other? Stranger things have happened between people with a LOT MORE gap in their age.

    Stop trying to twist words around.

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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2009
     
    Lockhart:
    Garrett:
    andy mcGEE:I am against the entire idea of having laws governing when you can and cannot have sex. It was consensual in the fact that the girl AGREED TO SEX. Saying someone is too young to know what to do with their own body is also ridiculous. What if they genuinely cared about each other? Stranger things have happened between people with a LOT MORE gap in their age.

    Stop trying to twist words around.


    this is EXACTLY what andy wrote, i didnt change anything or imply anything. just posting what andy said. are you upset about it? talk to andy about his views on how the government should have no opinion on this.

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      CommentAuthorLockhart
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2009 edited
     
    I didn't say you posted anything less than an absolute quote.

    I would have expected you not to understand my point. It's ok.

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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    Lockhart, shut the fuck up. you, sir, are a moron. Garrett knew exactly what my last post meant.

    Good call, Garrett.

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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    i wish i knew who you were


    lockhard - you didnt really have a point. you just made a quick statement about twisting words around but nothing really with it, no real opinion, all filler (which is to be expected from you)

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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    Garrett- 2, lockhart- 0

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      CommentAuthorLockhart
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    Haha silly silly boys.
    I was just saying that you were implying that Andy was stating that it would be A ok for a 4 year old to fuck whomever they choose. That is just ridiculous.
    Guest:Garrett- 2, lockhart- 0

    I'm sorry, you sir, are weak.

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    mmmm


    4 year olds

    warm my icey, icey boneszzz


    -xIceSizzleX

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      CommentAuthorTravis
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009 edited
     
    david, tell us his IP please? and who else posts from that same IP?

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      CommentAuthortucker
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    a thread on raping a 4 year old's ass is a shitty place to argue.

    no pun intended.

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    Dont be silly garret. There is a tremendous difference in 4 and 14. Some one that is 14 is more than likely sexually matured and may or may not be mature enough to start making personal decisions. A 4 year old is neither of those.

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      CommentAuthorPAUL GENET
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    andy then the question is when is too young? i think your comment about a 14 year old knowing what to do with their body is just silly especially when being influenced by an adult. we as a society have to draw a line

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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    PAUL GENET:andy then the question is when is too young? i think your comment about a 14 year old knowing what to do with their body is just silly especially when being influenced by an adult. we as a society have to draw a line



    THERE YOU GO

    • CommentAuthorJacob DB
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    PAUL GENET:andy then the question is when is too young? i think your comment about a 14 year old knowing what to do with their body is just silly especially when being influenced by an adult. we as a society have to draw a line

    I dont think he would argue with you paul, but I do think that the whole argument is where that line is. Clearly he doesn't think it's cool about the 4 year old but it is cool about the 14 year old. Where would you put the line at?

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    where would you all draw the line? This 19 year old dude that had sex with a 14 year old was not a predator, or a stalker, or a sexual pervert. I am sure he actually had feelings for the girl. I think they were dating or something? Whatever it was, they had something more between them other than a sexual relationship...She just happened to be 14.

    A 40 year old dude having sex with a 4 year old is not even in the ballpark or comparable with this. That man had no interest in a relationship or anything. He just wanted to feed a sick fantasy he had at the expense of someone else. There is no good that could come out of that....He could damage her sexual organs, and I am sure that it was completely against her will.

    I don't think these two situations are comparable at all. I know some girls (and guys) that are in their early teens that are just sexually attracted to slightly older dudes. I dont think there is anything wrong with that at all. Do you guys think it is ok for two 14 year olds to have sex? If the answer is yes I would say it is silly to tell a young teenager that they have boundaries with who they can and cannot do stuff with.

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      CommentAuthorLauraTiny
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    i totally agree with you andy

    • CommentAuthorJacob DB
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    Think about it the other way around andy. Is it cool for an older dude to be having sex with a 14? Would you have relations with a guy under 18 (other than legality)? I think the girl is just really immature. I know, ive been there. I lost my virginity when I was 14. I think I was absolutely stupid and im only 17? I think it's ridiculous. In all honest, it's a mindset that teenagers have, especially younger teenage girls. It's "Cool" to have sex at a super young age and I sincerely doubt they know anything that they are actually doing. We can all agree that sex is a big life choice such as many other things. I just think the media and the public has altered everyone's view points on sex; well, at least the general consensus. Anywhere you go, sex sells. I just think that it is taking advantage of the girl because of the pressure they face. That isn't the best of excuses, but it is true whether or not anyone wants to argue about it. Sex is so common and so underrated that people just blow it off. Of course a teenage girl isn't going to give a shit. I really dont think that the 18 year old dude should get as harsh punishment as he will probably get, but he does need one. Even you said that he has to know the laws, even just avoiding the laws should earn him sometime. All in all, dude broke the law and will be screwed for life. She'll probably regret it when shes older. These two situations aren't that comparable, but they are still in the same category. I was simply asking for a line to be drawn since people think they have crossed one on both sides of the argument.

    PS. Just watched the local news on some really creepy, fat, hairy guy getting arrested and charged on 8 counts of statutory rape. He was 33 and she was 13.

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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    LauraTiny:i totally agree with you andy


    BIG FUCKING SURPRISE THERE!

    • CommentAuthorJacob DB
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    Guest:
    LauraTiny:i totally agree with you andy


    BIG FUCKING SURPRISE THERE!

    That was dumb. You're dumb. If you're going to call her out, have the guts to log in.

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      CommentAuthorLauraTiny
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    Guest:
    LauraTiny:i totally agree with you andy


    BIG FUCKING SURPRISE THERE!


    really? i USUALLY don't agree with everything he says...

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
     
    I would feel different if it was a much older guy (30s, 40s, whatever) having sex with a 14 year old. I have never heard of a 40 year old having a real relationship with a young teenager, but I know of a few people that have dated younger people and have had no problems. My grandad dated my grandmother when he was 20 and she was 15. But that was in the 50s and things were different then. ha.

    Would I date someone younger than 18? probably not. But only because I dont think I would meet someone that is on my maturity level or is genuinely into the same things I am. When I was 17 I did see a 22 year old college guy for a little bit though. hah.

    I just think that a 14 year old and a 19 year old COULD have a healthy relationship, and I dont see anything wrong with that. And who the hell am I to tell someone what to do with themselves so long as it doesnt hurt me? That is the only reason I am defending them. He did not force himself on her, so I dont think it is an issue.


    I am not an advocate for promiscuous sex, I know that sex sells, blahblahblah. I just dont think you should tell two people they can't be together based on a few years difference in age. That is causing two people, both old enough to think for themselves undue pain which is super frustrating and totally bullshit. And at 14, sex is a very real part of relationships. It is human nature to have a desire to have sex once you start to hit puberty. 100 years ago, people were regularly getting married at 14.

    • CommentAuthorJacob DB
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    andy mcGEE:Would I date someone younger than 18? probably not. But only because I dont think I would meet someone that is on my maturity level or is genuinely into the same things I am.


    That was my main point. Not trying to twist your words at all either. I understand a lot of what you say, especially the Not Hurting You part. It probably is entirely true of what you speak of. I just feel that people of a younger age dont understand the differences between maturity levels and when someone older does but is still having sex with them, I would strongly consider that taking advantage of. This is all hypothetical, but I feel that those older typically always can catch on to the maturity differences.

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    I'm surprised no one has brought up the argument that minors, regardless of maturity, have no business being parents. The question we should be asking ourselves is whether we want laws which encourage unwanted pregnancies?

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      CommentAuthorKoger
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    taoofyeatts:I'm surprised no one has brought up the argument that minors, regardless of maturity, have no business being parents. The question we should be asking ourselves is whether we want laws which encourage unwanted pregnancies?


    you just took this on a whole nother road and i like it.

    • CommentAuthortaoofyeatts
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009 edited
     
    I also thought this would be very relevant to this conversation: ->link<-

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    taoofyeatts:I'm surprised no one has brought up the argument that minors, regardless of maturity, have no business being parents. The question we should be asking ourselves is whether we want laws which encourage unwanted pregnancies?


    Unwanted pregnancies happen at all ages. Older people that have "accidents" are probably more likely to get an abortion rather than a younger person that has support from their family.

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      CommentAuthoroccupant
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    actually, college aged girls get the most abortions. i think most older adults usually just buy a condom.

    • CommentAuthortaoofyeatts
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009 edited
     
    andy mcGEE:
    taoofyeatts:I'm surprised no one has brought up the argument that minors, regardless of maturity, have no business being parents. The question we should be asking ourselves is whether we want laws which encourage unwanted pregnancies?


    Unwanted pregnancies happen at all ages. Older people that have "accidents" are probably more likely to get an abortion rather than a younger person that has support from their family.


    Where did you find this information?

    Moreover, even if this statement is true, what about the born child? If the pregnant kid decides to keep the baby, then the child (who will most likely be a single parent) will be forced to grow up fast. If the pregant kid decides not to keep the baby, then the baby goes up for adoption, which can sometimes (and I do stress "sometimes") lead to a very hard life.

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    Pure speculation. As I have said earlier in this thread, I am all for safe sex for everyone!

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    Who's having abortions (age)?
    52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%.
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    1.2% of abortions are girls under the age of 15.

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      CommentAuthoroccupant
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    andy mcGEE:Who's having abortions (age)?
    52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%.
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    1.2% of abortions are girls under the age of 15.


    those stats are over 10 years old.

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    ->link<-


    Statistics from 2006, look almost exactly the same.

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      CommentAuthorGuest
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    Nothing like killing unborn babies and calling it progress!

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    A growth from 1.2 percent to 2 percent of abortions for persons under the age of 15 is very significant increase. You realize that is nearly doubling the amount of abortions right?

    I would argue 6,000 DOCUMENTED abortions for persons under the age of 15 is fairly significant. I would also say that over 146,000 abortions for persons between the ages of 15 and 19 is very significant.

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    Where do you see 2% i see 0.8% of all abortions

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    oops my mistake.

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    I cant believe such a high number of 15-19 year olds have abortions. the 15-24 age group is ridiculous.

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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    andy mcGEE:where would you all draw the line? This 19 year old dude that had sex with a 14 year old was not a predator, or a stalker, or a sexual pervert. I am sure he actually had feelings for the girl. I think they were dating or something? Whatever it was, they had something more between them other than a sexual relationship...She just happened to be 14.



    there is a lot to read, i read this first paragraph and realized im really tired and dont want to do the rest tonight, will finish in morning.
    BUT
    I do want to comment on this - you sure he had feelings for her? you sure they were dating? sure there was more than just sex? i mean, we werent there, we dont know.
    and honestly, just cause they hung dont mean crap, many people hang with girls (or vice versa) just to get laid later on that day or whatever.
    he couldve been fibbing about liking her, heck, i dont know. you dont know. im not trying to be a jerk to you andy, but trying to show that we really dont know what his intentions were and if he really did care for the girl. you can assume, but you dont know. and neither do i.
    there is a chance he was just tryin to get his penis moistened

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      CommentAuthoroccupant
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    i'm going to go on a limb here and say a 19 year old was taking advantage of a girl in 8th grade. call me crazy though.

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    There are like 8 total charges against him. Which means they were probably seeing each other over the course of some time.

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    yes, garret. anyone can be with someone jkust to get their dick wet though.

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      CommentAuthorGarrett
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    andy mcGEE:There are like 8 total charges against him. Which means they were probably seeing each other over the course of some time.
    andy mcGEE:yes, garret. anyone can be with someone jkust to get their dick wet though.


    exactly.
    you seriously think that JUST cause they had intercourse more than half a dozen times means he is in love or something? NOPE.

    ps - TWO 'T"s!

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      CommentAuthoroccupant
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    andy mcGEE:There are like 8 total charges against him. Which means they were probably seeing each other over the course of some time.


    he was getting ass. why would he not hang out with her?

    • CommentAuthorandy mcGEE
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
     
    That is speculating, what if they actually cared about each other?

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